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Farm Star Pizza

There is this great local pizza place here in Chico, they pride themselves on using local and organic ingredients. Although the very first time I went there to try it (about a year and a half ago), it immediately got my attention with its decorations.

The first time I went into this pizza joint this was on the wall. You guys know how I feel about fear mongering right? (and you know this corn/fish is not a real thing, right?)

The first time I went into this pizza joint this was on the wall. You guys know how I feel about fear mongering right? (and you know this corn/fish is not a real thing, right?)


The more I thought about that poster the more upset I became. So I did what any person in my generation would do, I left them a comment on their facebook page. Well a few other local farmers/ranchers saw that comment and poster and they also chimed in. A conversation was had and Farm Star realized that perhaps fear mongering was not a proper way to support local farmers and ranchers. All was well for a long time. I enjoyed Farm Star pizza’s occasionally, life was good.

Then a couple days ago something Farm Star posted on their page got my attention again.

The claim that organic  is "tastier, but it's also better for you and the environment" is one I would like to debate.

The claim that organic is “tastier, but it’s also better for you and the environment” is one I would like to talk about I mean just because something is organic does that mean it is healthy? Organic cookies are healthy? Organic pizza is healthy?.

And I did try to have a conversation with Farm Star but, internet happens, and other consumers got involved.

And I did try to have a conversation with Farm Star but, internet happens, and other consumers got involved.

This did make me LOL, Jenny does have a point that Butte County doesn't produce that much wheat and probably even less "organic" wheat.

This did make me LOL, Jenny does have a point that Butte County doesn’t produce that much wheat and probably even less “organic” wheat.

This is me suggesting that more farmers and ranchers should be asked.

This is me suggesting that more farmers and ranchers should be asked.

May I be snarky for just a second? Working on 1 farm for a season, isn't going to teach you everthing, it's just not. I've been in the ag industry for 30 years amd I still feel like I know nothing.

May I be snarky for just a second? Working on 1 farm for a season, isn’t going to teach you everthing, it’s just not. I’ve been in the ag industry for 30 years and I still feel like I know nothing.

Sometimes trying to have a calm conversation on the internet can be really hard. The internet seems to give people license to be a little more nasty, and that is easy to do when you aren’t face to face with someone. People also don’t like when something they “know” is “true” is questioned. I know it certainly bugs me when people that are not involved in production agriculture tell me all about it (especially when they are quoting a popular anti-ag book or movie).

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Over the past couple of years, I have grown a lot better at having online conversations with people. I went from basically “um, you are wrong, I am right” to “well why do you think that? Because my experience in the field has been different, let’s talk”. Especially now that I have sought treatment for my anxiety, my communication skills are about 100% better. True, I can be snarky sometimes, but after a certain point, everyone runs out of patience sometimes, especially when people start to name calling or try to go off topic. Despite it all, I sent every single one of these ladies a friend request, I really was trying to have a discussion where we all could learn something, only one accepted.

It was really important to me that Farm Star didn’t think I am a “local disgruntled farmer” (I consider myself a rancher, and I’m not disgruntled, I just want people to know what they are talking about). So I went in there to talk to them about their post. I know they didn’t mean to open a can of worms with it, but since they want to support local agriculture, I wanted them to know that not only organic agriculture is beneficial. Like I said above in my comments, ag is not that simple- organic, just like conventional ag has its positives and negatives.

I really like this place and was excited to talk to them!

I really like this place and was excited to talk to them!

Walking into Farm Star this time, they had a lovely picture of a 4-H member, LOVE IT!

Walking into Farm Star this time, they had a lovely picture of a 4-H member, LOVE IT!

I spoke to Robert at Farm Star. I apologized for high jacking the thread, and tried to tell him who I am. Sometimes it helps when I explain to people that in fact I did earn an advanced ag degree, I ranch, I work very hard for local ag, I write for all ag, I have a blog. He said he didn’t mind that there was some drama, it was basically free advertising for them. I was glad he felt that way, because I really do admire them for using local products (when they can).
I tried to explain that I really didn’t want to get into the conventional vs organic debate, because it just should not be debated. All agriculture is important, and it’s wonderful that we have a choice! I think Robert understood.

I got myself a Porky Pig!

I got myself a Porky Pig!

The organic pizza was excellent! It had potatoes and bacon on it, a great combination! And the pizza was big enough that I will have leftovers tonight! Generally I cook or my parents cook for me, so pizza is a nice splurge and treat for for me.

The organic pizza was excellent! It had potatoes and bacon on it, a great combination! And the pizza was big enough that I will have leftovers tonight! Generally I cook or my parents cook for me, so pizza is a nice splurge and treat for for me.

If you are a local Chicoan and haven’t tried Farm Star, I say go try it! It’s yummy! I really love to support local businesses that support local farmers and ranchers, after all, we are all in this thing together!

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Google Educated

“Google educated”. It’s my new favorite term, and unfortunately, a very ugly truth. In fact this is part of the reason I started “agvocating”, the other reason was because of an ex of an ex, but that is a whole other blog post. I’ve lost count of how many times people who have never stepped foot on a farm, feedlot, or processing plant tell me how bad my industry is. They learned everything they need to know about beef production from youtube, google and twitter and there is no way in hell they can learn anything more about agriculture, especially from an actual rancher!
In college I would go from a beef production class where we were learning how innovative and technologically advanced our industry was (from a teacher that was both a PhD and a cattle producer) to a general education class, where they tried to teach me beef production was the same it was in the 1970’s (it’s not), from a teacher who saw a farm once from the road.
I understand there is a major disconnect between farm and fork. This disconnect has left the majority of our population vulnerable to misinformation about agriculture. The repercussions of this disconnect has resulted in movies like “Food Inc” and books like “The Omnivore’s Dilemma”, these books and movies are often one-sided and skewed versions of what their creators consider modern agriculture.
Until I went to college and earned my degree in agriculture I held many of the same beliefs as people not in agriculture. I believed natural beef was better the environment, I thought organic was the only answer and Monsanto was the devil. It’s easy to understand why I believed that. Movies, books and articles written by those who have little to no understanding of modern agriculture often vilify what they don’t understand. It’s human nature to fear what we don’t know. Agriculture is not as simple or easy as it is made to look. I think all industries are like that, but for some reason many people think agriculture is the cowboy in the white cowboy hat versus the cowboy in the black cowboy hat or the small family farmer versus the giant corporate farmers, or good versus evil. It wasn’t until I went to college and learned the why’s, what’s, how’s and when’s of agriculture, that I was able to take a step back and say “gee, I really didn’t know shit about the big picture of ag just because I grew up on a ranch”.
I needed to be exposed to other points of view; I needed to learn WHY we do things. It was amazing to be educated from people who actually knew what they were talking about. I got a wonderful, hands on education that incorporated organics, GMO’s, “conventional” agriculture. I learned that many of these production methods can overlap each other; I learned how we can use the advanced technology and production methods available to make ag better!
So it really annoys me is when ranchers and farmers start fighting with each other over different production methods. For example, grass fed is better than grain fed (follow http://meatgeek.org/, I’ve learned so much), or organic is better than conventional. Or even worse when a farmer fear mongers, a neighbor of mine has a sign at their farmer’s market booth that reads “are there GMO’s in your food?” like it is going to kill you. RIGHT NOW. (Do a whisper of research at http://www.biofortified.org/)
I hate to say this, and it will probably get me in trouble with certain people, but I’m going to say it anyway. It seems like the “farmers” that are doing the attacking and fear mongering are the ones with limited agricultural experience and education. They are the ones that never got a formal agricultural education, they read some Michael Pollan, Joel Salatin and Google and suddenly they know everything about agriculture and the only acceptable kind is organic, raw, sustainable, repurposed, heirloom, (insert more buzz words here).
Unfortunately these “Google farmers”, with their PhD’s from University of  the Internet are often the ones with the loudest voices. They are the ones selling at the Farmer’s Markets, telling the consumer how they know everything because they agree with Mr. Pollan and Mr. Salatin, and commercial farmers are bad and are only out to make money and posion their land. They seem to only go to organic workshops, they often don’t belong to Cattlemen’s or Farm Bureau, they have no desire to learn more about “conventional”. It’s their way or no way. I am very resentful and bitter at these people. I’ll admit it. It’s hard for me to go to Farmer’s Markets and hear attacks on my way of life from people that only have half of the story. Yet another side of me understands why they think this way, I once did too.
It’s time for us all to educate each other and stop the fear mongering and shit talking. Google farmers you need to have an open mind. You need to learn WHY we do things and just because a particular faming method doesn’t work for you doesn’t make it evil. If you are going to “educate” the public about agriculture don’t you think you should know the full story? Scaring people about “conventional” agriculture isn’t doing anyone any favors. Passing more laws and regulations for farmers to follow only makes it harder for us grow your food, and makes our food more expensive.  A good place to start would be to enforce the laws we already have. “Conventional” farmers you need to be more vocal! I know, it’s hard and you are busy, but we need to be transparent, we need to show our consumers that we are not out to kill them, that we do treat our animals humanely, we do use pesticides responsibly, that “Food Inc” is NOT the norm.
And consumers (farmers are consumers too, people forget that), you need turn Google off and get your hands dirty. Come on out to farms, read some Temple Grandin, if something upsets you or you don’t understand why farmers do something ask! Ask several farmers, make sure you are talking to farmers or ranchers that aren’t fear mongering and shit talking. I assure you that once you start learning about ag from ag it isn’t nearly as scary or evil as it seems.

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